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Holiday displays in August.

jglass

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While at SAMS the other day they had Halloween displays out and even some Chritmas items. NOW..I love to see it lol. Im a holiday nut. The only thing I like about summer is having fresh garden goodies. I heard lots of other people mumbling about how stores push the holidays on people to fast. I can understand why some people would feel that way. Im just not one of them lol. Im still a big kid at heart. I still have It's The Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown I watch every fall with my nieces when Halloween gets close. I have a DVD collection of all the Rankin Bass claymation Christmas holiday movies. Christmas wouldnt be Christmas without Rudolph and The Year Without A Santa Claus. I love Mickey's Christmas Carol & you can't forget Emmet Otter's Jug Band Christmas lol.

Anyone here get irritated by the holiday displays when its 90+ outside?
 
Don't bother me in the slightest- to tell ya the truth, janie.

When I worked for Princess we had a huge "Christmas in July" weekend celebration every summer. We decorated to the nines- trees, wreaths, blinking lights, robotic snow-men, santa suits (guess what fat guy got stuck being the Santa many years?) decorated gingerbread houses, and the whole sha-bang! We even did a staged Vaudeville style show with carols, costumes, etc. It was fun!

In the cooking biz folks and big companies have their annual catered Christmas Party as early as October and as late a Valentine's Day. I've almost always been burnt-out on the holidays LONG before they occur anyway- whatever Sam's or Wal-Mart has on display really hasn't played any part in that, 'cause the biz alone dragged it out and milked it dry for me!

Not to sound like a Bah-Humbug 'cause that ain't my style at all... but working really busy Christmas seasons in a demanding field kinda gives the holidays a whole new meaning!
 
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Yeah if I had to work at a business during the holdiays I doubt I would like them as much lol.
 
Personally I get very irritated at the way they push the envelope. For several reasons.

First and foremost it's the way all the holidays have been overly commercialized. When, for instance, did Halloween become such a big deal? God forbid you dress you kid in a home-made custome anymore. (S)he'll be ostracized. And there are places I know of where the housewives actually have an unspoken competition over house decorations, and who can give out the most popular treats---all of which are store-bought, of course, because of the make-believe threat of razor blades in the apples.

Second, holidays should be happy time events. There should be a sense of building anticipation, with the holiday being the climax. Nowadays it's anticlimactic, because we're so saturated that by the time it arrives we're just glad to see it over with.

Third, from my point of view, holidays are either religious events or family affairs. As a pagan, for instance, Halloween has meaning for me beyond what most people think. Thanksgiving and Christmas are times when family and loved ones gather together in celebration. So I don't want to hear, in October, that there are only 97 shopping days until Christmas. I don't want to shop for it at all.

BTW, how many realize, on a conscious level, that in the U.S. Thanksgiving is the only holiday we have whose sole purpose is food and gluttony? While we do eat and overindulge on other holidays, that isn't their reason for being.
 
:)I Love the holidays! It's that special time of year. I Love all the bright lights and the shopping it's cool. :cool: I make good foodies.:p I get with Family. Talk with the neighbors we exchange foodies.:D Then all of the sudden:eek: it gets to be a little much but it's fun! Cookie :)
 
Ok - they are pushing it - they want to make money - and they are already complaining that they are not making their holiday monies - even tho most of us haven't started OUR shopping yet. They are advertising 4 - 6 months ahead of time for the almighty dollar.

In June - it's the start of back to school
In July - it's the Christmas display
In August - it's Halloween
In September - it's Thanksgiving and reservations for New Year's
In October - it's Valentines
In November - It's Easter and the January white sales
In December - it's St. Patricks Day
In January - it's summer sportswear and swimming pools
In February - it's communion and confirmation
In March - it's graduation
In April - it's last years summer styles on close out because they are gearing up for the holiday displays
In May - it's for the weddings that will take place 3 years from now
In June - the store buyers have already place orders for what the stores will be selling 13 seasons later..................
and don't forget - by the end of June all the reports come out of how much the stores did not make - and all their losses - which are not true figures anyway - they are based on what the PREDICTED they would take in which is ten times of more than would normally take in - so they cry poverty

and so it goes...............................


hmmm - let's see---last year the store made a 17% profit and we wanted 999% profit so we can claim on our reports that we did so bad and ask the government for tax breaks and then we have a good reason to lay off employees, get rid of full timers and keep just part timers with no benefits.........................
 
I indentify w/ everyone's frustration regarding the rushed retail holiday thang, but I just don't let it bother me. I'm not a very commercial/materialistic sort anyway- and I definitely feel in the minority- so from that perspective I've always been kind of a holiday outsider.

I get a buzz outta the holidays- but that buzz rarely occurs on October 31, Dec. 25th or Feb. 14th. So I gotta just catch that buzz whenever it occurs! My kitchen career always had me working every holiday, so I don't know what it's like to enjoy turkey at the family table on a Thursday, wake up and open presents on a Christmas morning, or share a romantic meal w/ a sweetheart on the 14th of Feb. Holidays were always busy/stressful times for me. But that doesn't mean I opted out of celebration! I just found myself typically celebrating before or after the specific date. I always tried to enjoy some "normalcy" and mark the occasion, whether it be turkey sandwich and a wedge of pumkpin pie at 2:00AM in the staff dining room, or a yummy dessert and a smooch the day after Valentine's Day when all the dust had settled!

I grew up with a Dad whose constant gloomy "Eeyore" remark about special days was "Ah- it's just another day!" And he never did special things to mark occasions. As a result, we kids grew up not wanting to be that way. So I try to keep a healthy celebrate anytime/anywhere mentaility.
 
My parents never did anything with us for any holidays. I cannot ever remember getting presents as a kid. Sucks being born to two alcholics. I get to do the holidays my way now. I always appreciate my little family but even more so around the holidays. Makes me remember what I never had growing up and appreciate what I have now even more. I love to go in the stores and check out all the new holiday stuff.
 
Don't get me wrong, Kevin. It's not that I don't get a buzz from holidays. What turns me off is all the long, drawn out hoopla leading up to them; all of which is promoted by somebody looking to make a profit.

When I grew up we celebrated Christmas with friends. We (the kids, that is) would go up there the day before Christmas, and help decorate the tree. In that family, decorating, and putting up lights, etc. was reserved for Christmas Eve. And they came down right after twelft night.

Christmas Day my folks would arrive, and we'd all celebrate together with a wonderful feast, and opening presents.

Friend Wife would start decorating Thanksgiving Weekend. And the stuff would remain up through January. I just got bored with it.

We also had a tradition. We celebrated with friends who had kids the same age as ours. The rule was: you could exchange presents, but they had to be homemade. Something from the heart, in other words, instead of something from Walmart.

A great tradition that I wish others would follow.
 
I totally see and respect your point, Brook- and I share it. I hope the words in my ideas above didn't seem to disregard, discount or write-off yours'.

Part of it for me is, I hate shopping. I don't go into malls or stores so I'm not so exposed to all the commerical months-ahead money-grabbing that goes on. I've always been that way, but then my many years in Alaska impacted me that way , and then along came the internet- and suddenly 90% of my shopping was done on-line and the stuff comes directly to the house- no shopping, no hassle. Even now that I am back in civilization I find myself ordering eveything online- even though I have tons of shopping all around me!

Our Christmases growing up were much like you describe... we actually never put our tree up until the weekend before Christmas- then took it down normally on New Year's- unless the needles were falling-out like crazy- then we might take it down the day after - or during the week after the holiday. Many neighbors put their tree up the d ay after Thanksgiving- or in some cases even before! That was 30 years ago, and even more seem to follow that practice today.

Dad had a factory job with a modest income so our gift-giving was either homemade stuff as you describe, or cheaper, basic stuff. Even today I don't go for the lavish gift-giving and the over-indulgence people do often do for one another- particularly parents with their kids. I love my sister and bro-in-law, and my niece and nephew to death, but they've completely gotten sucked into the current contemporary practice of lavishing everything onto their children that they possibly can- even stuff they cannot afford- even going into debt for these "things". Their kids have everything- and what's more is last season's "everything" still sits there, unused and under-appreciated.

It seems I make an Alaskan connection to absolutely everything that comes up- but those 13 years really shaped who I am today. In the north were I lived a traveling lifestyle and where I often made my home base small living quarters or a backwoods cabin without a lot of excess space, I really developed a knack for scaling-back and not over-indulging. I lived in quaint, charming places with fantastic views and expansive ways of personal enrichment outside of "having things".

I got to learn what it felt like to live on the tundra with a back pack of music, a single shelf of books, and a single framed art print. And I tell ya- to have someone snow-shoe miles up-hill to your cabin from their truck parked 3 miles down the pass because the snow is too deep to drive through, carrying a satchel with a gift of city-bought tea-bags, and a used volume of poetry, in that rustic environment did the same thing for me as a tree-full of fancy-wrapped presents! And to sit in my cabin and savor that simple gift was a treasrued experience.

What's more- that guest would sit in the warmth enjoying a shared pot of tea, and we felt snug and satisifed with my one shelf of books, that one framed print and that tiny collection of music- as though we were surrounded by a complete museum of inspring art!

Something about being in the vast, quiet woods with no neighbors or civilization for many miles- with very little- yet "just enough" brings a total feeling of fulfillment that I just never got before from close proximity to huge bounties of "stuff". I got to learn to appreciate "little" as though it were truly "a lot"... and I love that fulfilling feeling!

Anyway, where I go with all of this is- I feel learning that "secret" has greatly affected me. So today I really block out a lot of the things out there around me that I consider indulgent excess. I know that Wal-Mart starts shoving Halloween masks down our throats before school even starts. I know they're trying to condition us to believe we need wrapping paper and ribbons and bows in Sepptember, but I totally block it out and since I r arely am even in stores, I am not likely exposed to the goofiness of it all, as others are. So I feel far less impacted by the materialism and excess of it all than most folks are. It's kind of an "ignorance is bliss" thing, I guess!
 
Without the Holidays what would we do? It would be the same all the time. It is good to make traditions even if it is only a piece of pumpkin pie in the fall. Or that hot chocolate in the winter when you are building snow men. I love Bailey's for St. Patty's day and yea corn beef sandwiches. I have fun buying candy at Halloween and beautiful fall flowers. Making presents is a good idea, the Internet even better. Hoidays will be here soon enough! Cookie :)
 
Cookie, I think you're missing the point.

Nobody is saying do away with the holidays; far from it. But we've gotten so far away from their meaning that all they've become is a feeding frenzy for merchants.

Once upon a time only Chrismas and Valentine's Day were celebrated with such freneticness. Then they (led by the florists) discovered they could turn the others in that direction. Easter, and St. Pats, and Halloween. Mothers Day, and Father's Day, and Grandparents' Day. And even a love they secretary and buy her flowers day.

And then they took it a step further, and started making up holidays. Kwanza, for example, which only exists in America. And then they discovered the concept of the Friday after Thanksgiving; and try, and try, and try to make it a self-fulfilling prophesy.

When does it become enough?

The very word holiday means holy day. Sometimes that can mean a religious sense, such as what Christmas is supposed to be all about (and hasn't been for lo these many years. And sometimes it can mean the reverent feeling that comes from being with loved ones in a loving environment.

When is the last time you mused on the meaning of Independence Day? Or Labor Day? Or any of the holidays you are so anxious to spend money on?
 
I do know what you mean. I really do. A couple of years ago I decided not to get all stressed out before the holidays. :eek: I decided what was important and what wasn't. I didn't want my Christmas to be to commercialized and that you have to decide what's to commercialized for your self. Some people like to start shopping early. It doesn't really bug me to see the Holiday stuff out early. That's just me. Cookie :)
 
Doesnt bother me one bit when they put the stuff out early. But Jon and I only have to shop for his Dad.
Im with Cookie on this one.
Keep the holidays in your home to mean what they are in your heart. Dont sweat the rest.
 
I don't enjoy shoppping for the holiday when the store is 3 holidays ahead. it was better years ago - Christmas was the biggest holiday back then - and the stores would have everything up the dat after Thanksgiving. It was so much better.

And it seems that when they put the stuff up for a holiday - even if it is 6 months early - if you don't buy it when you see it - the closer to the holiday you get the less you will find!
 
Your Right Mama it used to be before Thanksgiving you used to see Christmas stuff out and that seemed a little early. Maybe the stores are thinking we need a little Christmas right this very minute in June or July. Oh well. Merry Christmas. :D Cookie :)
 
I detest all the Commer******m of the Holidays. As a child my family was dirt poor...my Dad died when I was 9 ....7 months later my 8 yr old sister was killed and Mother suffered a total nervous breakdown.My brothers and sister raised ourselves.We didn't have much except ourselves.Holidays never had meaning to us except to remind us how much we did not have.
I don't run out and spend a lot of money for Christmas either like some folks do. It is not about "getting" stuff.I never start decorating for Christmas on Thanksgiving...The real meaning of Christmas has been lost for some people.
Janie you are right....Holidays are what is in your heart.....
 
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