ricksrealpitbbq
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Wow Mama, that's more than I ever knew about plastics
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It's brisket Thursday !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ricksrealpitbbq
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and today is Friday - no meat day................
it looks like you not only had a great meal but you can see how fork tender it is!
can I ask a question please?
don't get me wrong - but
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Mama you got me so confused, what was the question
Cook Chatty Cathy
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Not to speak for Mama but I kind of guess her question was along the lines of "do you know how bad plastic is for you?: I also have the Food Saver that we shrink wrap foods in, I love it. As yet I have not tried the boil-in-the-bag trick, but I do believe it would be safe as they are made for that purpose. Other plastics not intended for that could be dangerous, but the Food Saver & Seal-A-Meal bags were developed to boil foods in.
Mama I sure like to err on the side of food safety, and eat healthy so I do not micro-wave in any old plastic containers and cups - as a result of your warnings and educatiing us on the dangers in doing so, but I do believe some materials that are developed for that purpose are safe.
And as Rick described for the left-over brisket I'd eat that in a heart beat!!!
Mama I sure like to err on the side of food safety, and eat healthy so I do not micro-wave in any old plastic containers and cups - as a result of your warnings and educatiing us on the dangers in doing so, but I do believe some materials that are developed for that purpose are safe.
And as Rick described for the left-over brisket I'd eat that in a heart beat!!!
Mama Mangia
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sorry Rick and thank you Cathy -
my mind was going faster than my fingers - kinda like my mouth going faster than the speed of light - LOL
Rick - Cathy was right - I quoted you and I guessed you would get my question that I didn't ask because I was thinking ahead -
sorry -
my question was in reference to do you do that often (boil in the bag)???
but I will find the article about boiling foods in plastic bags and it should be forbidden entirely!
here is one -
ZIPLOC(r) brand Bags cannot be used to boil
food. Unfortunately, we do not manufacture a "boilable" bag.
We do not recommend using any ZIPLOC(r) brand Bag in boiling water, or
to "boil" in the microwave. ZIPLOC(r) brand Bags are made from
polyethylene plastic with a softening point of approximately 195 degrees
Fahrenheit. By pouring near boiling water (water begins to boil at 212
degrees) into the bag, or putting the bag into the water, the plastic
could begin to melt.
and -
I thought it was important to respond to a questionably safe Food Fad, the ZIPLOC OMELET. It is the latest NOT recommended fad. Please... DON'T try this at home and we will tell you exactly why. What is circulating around again is instructions on cooking omelets in Ziploc bags. This is not recommended until further research is done on cooking with plastics. There is still question about the cancer causing breakdown of plastics and their contact with food during cooking.
"We have contacted the Ziploc company and they replied by telling us that ZIPLOC® brand Bags cannot be used to boil food. They also told us that they do not manufacture a "boilable" bag.... yet.
"They do not recommend using any ZIPLOC® brand Bag in boiling water, or to "boil" in the microwave. ZIPLOC® brand Bags are made from polyethylene plastic with a softening point of approximately 195 degrees Fahrenheit. By pouring near boiling water (water begins to boil at 212 degrees) into the bag, or putting the bag into the water, the plastic could begin to melt. Might I add that eggs and cheese have fat which gets much hotter than water thus the likelihood of melting the plastic increases.
"It is so easy to start something unhealthy like the idea of a ZIPLOC OMELET. All you have to do is type it up and send it out to everyone you know via e-mail. It spreads like wild fire. The ZIPLOC OMELET instructions start out by telling you "This works great !!!" But who ever started the idea had not contacted the company who manufactures the bag to see if such cooking techniques were recommended. Therefore people receiving the instructions might just assume this idea is safe and it is not.
"The specific concern centers on the possible contamination of foods with known carcinogens that may be present in plastic containers and wraps.
"This issue is certain to generate much research to clarify the potential risks. Until this issue is fully resolved, consumers who want to take a cautious approach should not use Ziploc type bags for boiling food in water or in the microwave. People should continue making omelets the old traditional way until plastic bag manufacturers come out with an approved safe bag that while heated containing food will produce no carcinogens."
According to SC Johnson's Frequently Asked Questions page:
Can I boil in Ziploc® Brand bags?
No. Ziploc® Brand bags are not designed to withstand the extreme heat of boiling.
my mind was going faster than my fingers - kinda like my mouth going faster than the speed of light - LOL
Rick - Cathy was right - I quoted you and I guessed you would get my question that I didn't ask because I was thinking ahead -
sorry -
my question was in reference to do you do that often (boil in the bag)???
but I will find the article about boiling foods in plastic bags and it should be forbidden entirely!
here is one -
ZIPLOC(r) brand Bags cannot be used to boil
food. Unfortunately, we do not manufacture a "boilable" bag.
We do not recommend using any ZIPLOC(r) brand Bag in boiling water, or
to "boil" in the microwave. ZIPLOC(r) brand Bags are made from
polyethylene plastic with a softening point of approximately 195 degrees
Fahrenheit. By pouring near boiling water (water begins to boil at 212
degrees) into the bag, or putting the bag into the water, the plastic
could begin to melt.
and -
I thought it was important to respond to a questionably safe Food Fad, the ZIPLOC OMELET. It is the latest NOT recommended fad. Please... DON'T try this at home and we will tell you exactly why. What is circulating around again is instructions on cooking omelets in Ziploc bags. This is not recommended until further research is done on cooking with plastics. There is still question about the cancer causing breakdown of plastics and their contact with food during cooking.
"We have contacted the Ziploc company and they replied by telling us that ZIPLOC® brand Bags cannot be used to boil food. They also told us that they do not manufacture a "boilable" bag.... yet.
"They do not recommend using any ZIPLOC® brand Bag in boiling water, or to "boil" in the microwave. ZIPLOC® brand Bags are made from polyethylene plastic with a softening point of approximately 195 degrees Fahrenheit. By pouring near boiling water (water begins to boil at 212 degrees) into the bag, or putting the bag into the water, the plastic could begin to melt. Might I add that eggs and cheese have fat which gets much hotter than water thus the likelihood of melting the plastic increases.
"It is so easy to start something unhealthy like the idea of a ZIPLOC OMELET. All you have to do is type it up and send it out to everyone you know via e-mail. It spreads like wild fire. The ZIPLOC OMELET instructions start out by telling you "This works great !!!" But who ever started the idea had not contacted the company who manufactures the bag to see if such cooking techniques were recommended. Therefore people receiving the instructions might just assume this idea is safe and it is not.
"The specific concern centers on the possible contamination of foods with known carcinogens that may be present in plastic containers and wraps.
"This issue is certain to generate much research to clarify the potential risks. Until this issue is fully resolved, consumers who want to take a cautious approach should not use Ziploc type bags for boiling food in water or in the microwave. People should continue making omelets the old traditional way until plastic bag manufacturers come out with an approved safe bag that while heated containing food will produce no carcinogens."
According to SC Johnson's Frequently Asked Questions page:
Can I boil in Ziploc® Brand bags?
No. Ziploc® Brand bags are not designed to withstand the extreme heat of boiling.
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Mama Mangia
Super Moderator
and since I'm on a roll - don't buy those small little cheap resealable plastic bags for holding herbs, spices, etc.
THOSE PLASTIC BAGS ARE NOT DESIGNED TO BE USED FOR FOODS!
DO NOT USE ANY WASTE BASKET OR TRACH CAN BAGS TO HOLD FOODS! THEY LEECH INTO YOUR FOODS.
ALL PLASTIC BAGS NEED TO BE DESIGNED FOR FOOD STORAGE.
Just because it is plastic - don't mean you can use it for any food items at all.
Yeah - Mama hollered - but she did it with love.
THOSE PLASTIC BAGS ARE NOT DESIGNED TO BE USED FOR FOODS!
DO NOT USE ANY WASTE BASKET OR TRACH CAN BAGS TO HOLD FOODS! THEY LEECH INTO YOUR FOODS.
ALL PLASTIC BAGS NEED TO BE DESIGNED FOR FOOD STORAGE.
Just because it is plastic - don't mean you can use it for any food items at all.
Yeah - Mama hollered - but she did it with love.