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Zip-Lock Omelets

Mama, while we should all certainly be aware of, and concerned with, health matters, it's important, too, when spreading information that we be aware of any vested interests of those making the reports.

For example, in your second post the report starts by saying:

"The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) announced it will fine Teflon maker DuPont $16.5 million for two decades' worth of covering up studies that showed it was polluting drinking water and newborn babies with an indestructible chemical."

Very inflamatory. And very scary, if true. However, this is not quite what was said in your first post.

Much of the health and environmental reporting in this country is of that nature, unfortunately. Groups with an ax to grind twist and spin what is sometimes very little information.

Another example: Recent studies have repudiated the so-called links between aluminum and althzeimers. But even if they hadn't, the original (possibly flawed) study revealed that people with althzeimers had aluminum build-ups in certain portions of the brain.

The researchers, themselves, concluded that the causal relationship was unclear: Did aluminum build up and cause the disease? Or did having the disease cause aluminum to build up?

Obviously these are very different things. And yet, many groups, organizations, and individuals are still reporting that using aluminum cookware has been linked to althzeimers disease. Such as the article you quote, which states, "Excess aluminum has been associated with conditions such as Alzheimer?s."

For what it's worth, on the aluminum issue, nobody has been able to replicate the findings of the original study, and most researchers have concluded that the aluminum levels found in the original study were an artifact introduced by sloppy lab work.

Somehow or another, the mass media and the anti-aluminum lobby has never caught up with more recent findings.
 
I just posted several of the notes that I have. If anyone reads them - fine - if not - fine. Many do not give a hoot about any of this. Some do care. If I posted everything it would bore most.

Eating something at someone's home that was cooked in an aluminum pot will not kill you - unless you eat there and use that pot for everything everyday of the week.

Ditto with Teflon.

Ditto with fast-food wraps.

I remember that whole controversy with Teflon and all the articles about it.

But DuPont (as well as other large companies) have the money to "find" someone to say that things are fine with their products. That I do not like. But - we can't change it.

We all have our opinions - I prefer to not use certain items - but then again - it is my choice.
 
"I prefer to not use certain items - but then again - it is my choice."

Absolutely. And, for the record, there is neither aluminum nor non-stick cookware in my house. Not a single piece of either. That's a choice I made, for various reasons. But I don't go around spreading false information about them, either.

"But DuPont (as well as other large companies) have the money to "find" someone to say that things are fine with their products. That I do not like. But - we can't change it."

You're kind of proving my point with this statement. Obviously, you believe that DuPont will lie, cheat and steal to have its way. That they'll pay somebody to make up information.

That being the case, you are prepared to believe any information that appears which supports that view.

Meanwhile, there are others who belive many environmental and health groups operate from a knee-jerk anti-big business platform. They they will lie, cheat and steal in order to bring down whichever their target happens to be (such as DuPont). Those people are prepared to believe anything that supports the big company's position.

In neither case do the facts really matter much. What is it Robert Heinlein said about the Irish---that they are the only real philosophical people in the world, "facts do not sway them in the light of higher truths." Unfortunately, nowadays we all seem to operate that way.

Dave Brower started it, when he radicalized the Sierra Club many years ago. Ever since, almost every advocate of anything has taken a jesuitical approach---the end justify the means, and that's all that counts.

"But DuPont (as well as other large companies) have the money to "find" someone to say that things are fine with their products."

Are you somehow under the impression that advocacy groups which support your position are poor? You need to look at some of their budgets, which often number in the billions of dollars. The sad fact is, "expert witnesses" are for sale on any side of any issue. And the advocacy groups are masters at using such "experts," while manipulating the media.

Another sad fact is that whistle blowers have almost always been shown to have a personal vested interested in "revealing" what they do. For instance, I question the reason why Mr. Evers---"a former long time DuPont scientest"---suddenly chose to come forward. What was he doing all those years of the so-called cover-up? And why is he a former employee? Did he retire? Take a different job with another company? Get fired for cause? Shouldn't we know that information, so as to better judge what's going on.

Did you know that whistle blowers are subject to recieving up to 15% of any settlements? Do you reckon a potential $47-million (on the possible fine) or$2.48 million (on the actual fine) could have at least partially influenced his decision?
 
Can someone help? Call me dense- but after a month or more, I still cannot quite figure out a few options available here. How do I quote a segment of a post in light blue to cut-paste and reply specifically to? (I've been trying to clip sections of mama's and KYH's posts to reply to and comment on, but I cannot make it happen! Yikes!)

What are the "quote" (if it's intedned to do as I describe above I'm unable to make it work- I'm sure it's simple, but I can't get my pea-brain around it!) and "multi- on/off" buttons for? And what the helll does "furl this post mean?"
 
Hi Kevin,
When I use quote option it pulls up the entire post I then have to delete it all except the portion I want to quote.
The rest I am unsure of.

I have one question: I am using my Food Saver to shrink wrap my food in their plastic bags. They say you can boil in their bags, why couldn't one use the food saver bags for these omelets? It sounds fine to me to use them, just not the zip lock baggies. I liked the whole idea of make ahead omelets!
 
I have one question: I am using my Food Saver to shrink wrap my food in their plastic bags. They say you can boil in their bags, why couldn't one use the food saver bags for these omelets? It sounds fine to me to use them, just not the zip lock baggies. I liked the whole idea of make ahead omelets!
Just accept the fact that you are smarter than the average bear. :)

I told that to a person once and they couldn't figure out how to do it with an "open" foodsaver bag because there was no ziplock to seal it. Duh.
 
One reason not to use the sealer bags is cost. They are comparatively expensive.

Other than that, there's no reason not to use them.
 
I never did believe in Teflon - not from day one when they came out with it.

And I don't believe in the teflon coated papers that are used in fast food joints to wrap sandwiches.

Yes - there are whistle-blowers - for many reasons. There are too many articles against DuPont - I've got them all. I made a post for others to see and judge for themselves.

Not interested - then don't read it.

Investigate if you want.

Yes I did -

I've seen articles on both sides -

I stand by my choice.
 
I told that to a person once and they couldn't figure out how to do it with an "open" foodsaver bag because there was no ziplock to seal it. Duh.

That is so funny, I know it's not nice but that would make a good "blonde joke"! {I am blonde & blonde jokes do not offend me in the least} could that be because I AM BLONDE?!?:eek::p:D


As soon as I was reading the recipe the food saver bags popped into my mind, and I simply love the idea of everyone eating their own omelete at once! A hard feat to accomplish with a really large crowd!
 
Hey Cathy -

Mama's blonde! Born blonde and still blonde (but now with some white coming in!) LOL

I get badgered with blonde jokes! I don't get offended.

Always remember - (this is just one of Mama's slogans -)

DON'T GET MAD - GET EVEN!


Many blonde jokes I get come from bald men - and I love the bald men jokes! LOL:eek:
 
Hmmmmmm? Only bald jokes I know involve parrots, and profane language, and aren't suitable for a family forum.

But I was told once, by a less than hirsute friend, that God made only so many perfect heads, and covered the rest of them with hair.
 
This thread reminded me of a book I've stumbled upon recently, a compilation of zip lock recipes.
I was truly shocked, as I believed people were smarter than that.
I won't go over all of the potential hazards, they were all listed, but really, is there any substitute to frying your eggs (or anything else for that matter) with some butter, or animal fat, or even olive oil?
No zip lock gives you that flavor or effect.

And that book had steak recipes too!
 
I got a hilarious l'il cookbook a few years back from my dad... I've never been one for car maintanence... we argued once and I told him I was a CHEF and that I didn't need to know a damned thing other than how to fill my gas tank or change a tire- that I could happily pay others to take care of the rest for me. So Dad gave me this book that was all about cooking foods in the hot engine of your CAR while you were driving! Instead of cooking times- it included cooking miles! (For instance, Halibut in Parchment Paper- slice thinly, season, wrap and place on top of radiator and drive 70-85 miles! Thicker cuts?- 20 miles further for each quarter inch...) This was Dad's subtle way of reminding me that even for a chef it can't hurt to know a bit more about one's car than how to pump gas into it! It was a hilarious l'il read...
 
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I know exactly what you mean!
I've got a friend who was heavily into this, he used to prepare recipes like these when we used to go on vacations or camping, this way we had hot food ready on our arrival.
But he dropped it as soon as the engine started smelling, and getting dirty from the juices, and the food got a gasoline like smell :)
 
I've seen many recipes for cooking while driving, dishwasher fish recipes, etc.

Sorry - I'll cook on the "conventional" stoves, ovens, BBQ's, etc. I'm not into the frying an egg on the sidewalk thing either!
 
>....that I could happily pay others to take care of the rest for me. <

Reminds me of my friend Skeeter.

Some of you know that Friend Wife and I are historical re-enactors. So, too, was skeeter. He was a mountain man, by gar!

We used to call him the yuppy mountain man, though. His buckskins always looked like they'd just been dry cleaned. Everything he owned he had bought (rather than making himself, as most re-enactors of the period do).

But he had a good justification for it. "They (the Mountain Men) traded what they have of value---animal pelts---for the things they needed. I just do the same. What I have of value is called "money," and I trade it for what I need."

His contention, which was hard to argue against, was that he was ultimately more accurate in his interpretation than anyone else in our crowd.
 
Skeeter indeed had a point, KYH! It's hard to argue w/ a smart man's logic...

But does that now mean that he does his re-enacting from the comforts of home, online, in his speedos- rather than in person on the battlefield in his dry-cleaned buckskins w/ his espresso machine in the minivan back in the parking lot? Hee-Hee!

(Brook, if you haven't yet read it you might enjoy one of my favs... "Follow the River" by James Alexander Thom... It's right up your alley! Here- check it out...)

Amazon.com: Follow the River: James Alexander Thom: Books
 
I've not only read it, Kevin, I've followed much of her route.

The salt-making location, where she escaped from, is now Big Bone Lick State Park, in northern Kentucky. You may recall, from the book, that when she escaped, in 1756, a Frenchman in the party was reportedly "sitting on a giant bone, cracking walnuts."

Her story is, of course, one of the great escape tales of that time/place period involving women. Her's is probably the greatest of them. (The other two are the escape and return home of Jenny Wiley, in 1790; and the rescue of the Boone and Calloway girls after they were kidnapped from Boonesboro by Shawnee raiders in 1776.).

Jenny Wiley's story is almost as dramatic as Mary Draper's, with the exception of the distances involved. Jenny only traveled about 180 miles, compared to Mary's 800+. In both cases, though, we're talking about white women, alone in the wilderness. Incredible feats, in both cases.

Interestingly, few people who read her story (Either in the Thom book, or other versions) make the connection that Mary Draper was Mary Ingles' (of Little House fame) gr'grandmother.

Who says pioneering blood doesn't run true?
 
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