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 Posted By: CanMan 
Jul 10  # 41 of 59
Quote StickyPirate wrote:
It is so fascinating how environmental concerns seem to fall along party lines. I can't understand how people who claim to worship the Creator treat His creation so cavalierly (is cavalierly a word?). I know many good people who roll their eyes and scoff at the very mention of global warming. Why is that? I've become so cynical that I believe they've been sold a line by politicians who are in the pockets of big oil, big manufacturing, big etc.
I guess it is because environmental issues "are" political, especially when you have witnessed it over more than one generation. The only constant value is the size of the people's ego thinking they are superior.

Global warming "is" a serious issue and we (mankind) contribute to it, but to think that we are solely responsible for it is, again, an inflated ego. Mother Earth and Mother Nature have dealt with worse things long before we were walking around and will be dealing with things long after we are gone....and yes we are scheduled to leave.

Of course nobody seemed to read my earlier post that Global Warning is not limited to our planet. It is happening with other planets in our solar system, starting with the outer planet, Pluto. Could it be, therefore, that we are experiencing something much bigger and broader than our tiny planet.
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 Posted By: Cook Chatty Cathy 
Jul 10  # 42 of 59
Back from Vacation! I did read your earlier post CanMan. The earth is undergoing changes and has before, and will again as it is cyclical and very much a part of the very nature of our planet, and as you pointed out other planets are as well. There was a similar warming about 4 million years ago. It took millions of years to warm up and many millions more to come full circle and equal out. I agree 100% with your comment that inflated human ego can hold mankind responsible for every darned thing! Why hell we created the world and all the order and design with our mind-controling and we imagined everything into being, and so we can just of-course be held responsible for all of it right down to the last star that exploded eons ago, right up this this very moment in time! We are all powerful, all knowing, & by gosh we are supreme beings and we can fix everything just fine by ourselves as we are all god's. That's the way these alter-ego over-inflated ego maniacal damned politicians believe, why they can fix everything just fine, as long as we the people hand them all the money to fix it, because these god's would dare not use a cent of their own money because god-forbid if they did with-out for one minute of their fricking existance!!! And we should bow down in shame and give them all our money (as it is all our fault the world is in the shape it's in anyway) and we should just hang our heads in shame and let all the political god's fix our screw-ups, because after all they are god! We did create all this global warming and we "peon evil little god's" just suck don't we!!!
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 Posted By: CanMan 
Jul 10  # 43 of 59
Quote Cook Chatty Cathy wrote:
I did read your earlier post CanMan. The earth is undergoing changes and has before, and will again as it is cyclical and very much a part of the very nature of our planet, and as you pointed out other planets are as well.
Quite true about our planet, but NOT what I said and definitely not what I meant, but I guess everyone's thinking is just stuck here on this planet.
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There was a similar warming about 4 million years ago. It took millions of years to warm up and many millions more to come full circle and equal out.
I must have been out of town for that warning. Do you have any information on that? I'm wondering if that is when Earth acquired its unique characteristics and moved from the 7th to the 3rd planet in our Solar System. Has anyone ever thought about our planet enough to research why it is so unique with a land mass that only equals half a planet with the rest filled with water?

And you are quite correct about things working in cycles. One that effects our planet occurs every 3,600 years, not 4 million years, and its a humdinger. You needed worry however. We are only at about 3,598 years at the present time. Plenty of time to party. :)
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 Posted By: chubbyalaskagriz 
Jul 10  # 44 of 59
One thing we all would do well to keep in mind is that we are not experts- in fact, unless one of us is hiding some expertise that the rest of us don't know about (which, actually, is quite literally very possible, now that I think of it!) we at best express only our preferred opinions of others whom we decide to trust.

Oh sure- we may clip links to articles and quote studies- we may carry around copies of Smithsonian, National Geographic and lengthy, impressive scientific journals- but the long and short of it is even the learned experts disagree.

Find a hundred scientists who swear by global warming and you'll find a hundred who feel we're in the middle of a deep freeze. Find one who thinks it's all caused by over-population of China and you'll find one who thinks it's caused by the over-eating of "Lucky Charms" breakfast cereal! It's all a matter who whose story we individually decide to believe- and how well they sell it! Combine that with the hotbed topics of politics- and voila! You've got the makings for controversy, argument and debates that don't stand a chance of ever being solved.

And something tells me, based on our past world history regarding the whole world is flat mentality, and subsequent "awakenings" throughout the centuries- it's likely that not one single scientist so far has even ventured close to happening onto the actual truth, yet.

Folks in a thousand years are likely to look back and either laugh their azzes off at us- or grow silent and force suppression of feelings of anger & hate over our inability to get past ourselves and "get it". That is- if we're even still here.

The bottom-line key-factor for me is, "don't crap next to your feed-dish" (every cat knows that- why can't humans figure it out?!)
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 Posted By: Mama Mangia 
Jul 10  # 45 of 59
If you listen to all the "authorities" (if you want to call them that) you will go nuts.

Just help to take care of the planet and not abuse it for future generations. It's like an old house - take care of it and it will be there for a while yet and still be enjoyable - don't take care of it - well - it will rot away taking many beautiful and needed things with it.